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What the other dealers don't tell you.

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1)  The ugly truth about the pitfalls of buying the wrong Renault Scenic Diesel that even Renault won't tell you.

The scenic diesel comes in three engine sizes, the 1.5, 1.9 and recently the new 2.0

From 2005 In order to meet EU emissions standards the 1.9 and the 2 litre were fitted with a particle filter, the 1.9 turbodiesel power was raised to 130 bhp and designated the 1.9 130 bhp FAP.  

Now this is the problem........The particle filter blocks with sooty deposits and restricts the exhaust flow and brings up the engine management light and warning messages when it blocks up.

This is generally when the car is used for local running around and pottering about.

The engine is designed to be used hard with long fast runs - without these regular blowouts the filter will clog up.

When I enquired about the cost of rectification the reply was "you don't want to know" but turned out to be about £700 ish!!!

EVEN THOUGH THE CAR IS STILL UNDER WARRANTY!!!


2)  What to do about it if you already own one of these...'This information could save you £700/£800 plus '  EVEN IF IT IS STILL UNDER WARRANTY!!!!!

THE CURE ??

Should you already own one I'm sure you are loving it but if the light comes on you may be lucky and be able to cure it by taking it down the motorway and leaving it in 4th gear instead of 6th and thrashing it at top revs for a good long run to blow it out --and I don't mean just 10 or 20 miles!!  


3) Discover how you could invalidate your Renault warranty without even realising....... Some salesmen are still giving the wrong information.

Your Renault Warranty is at risk if you don't keep to the required service intervals.

The problem is... There have been many recent changes that will affect you and invalidate your cover.

From October 2000 Renault extended their 12 Month/12,000 mile service interval and warranty to 36 Months and 18,000 Service Intervals.

Now since the introduction of Euro 4 Emission standards in 2005, these time and distance intervals have all been changed with different engines having different requirements.

It's extremely hard to get the exact information without contacting Renault with your registration number or Chassis Number and asking them to tell you if your car is Euro 3 or Euro 4 if it was registered in 2005

The approximate changeover was about mid year 2005, around the time the 55 plate came in but that's really just a generalisation.

We have alternatively also been  told that the new requirements came in from January 1st 2005

THE LIST BELOW IS WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE THE LATEST INFORMATION

  EURO 3  EURO 4
1.4/1.6/2.0 PETROL  18,000/ 24M 18,000/12M 
1.5 DCI 80/86 BHP  + 100/106 BHP 18,000/24M 12,000/12M
1.9 DCI 120 BHP 18,000/24M    12,000/12M
1.9 DCI  130 BHP FAP    9,000/12M
2.0 DCI  150 BHP NON FAP    12,000/12M
2.0 DCI  175 BHP   FAP      9,000/12M
1.9 DCI  130 BHP  NON FAP (2007 ON)     12,000/12M
2.0 PETROL TURBO 165 BHP (RARE CAR)        12,000/12M
1.5 DCI AUTOMATIC  (RARE CAR)    12,000/24M
     

Additionally since January 2007 the higher power and performance engines have changed to OCS.  "Oil Control System" this monitors the engine and indicates the need for an oil change by a dashboard message and will vary according to the usage.

Block exemption regulations now state that your car can be serviced anywhere by anyone using any "Parts of matching quality"  Nissan has recently admitted they wrongly advised a Micra owner that their car had invalidated the warranty requirements  by using non Nissan parts and were corrected by The Automotive Distribution Federation.

However, if it was my car I would stick to genuine parts, even if I didn't use the main dealer for servicing, so there could be no cause for doubt regarding "matching quality"

I hope this helps to partially sort out the confusion over servicing and as I gather more information then I will be adding to this list

Mark Crittenden - MD

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